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		<title>By: madkane</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122622</link>
		<dc:creator>madkane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 04:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all of you for your interesting comments and your verse.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Bates</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122571</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 07:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Alllowing a terror suspect to lawyer up and clam up immediately upon being captured or arrested" is, Mr. Scott, as American as apple pie. And in American courts, people have certain rights whether they are American citizens or foreign nationals. 

Have you read the Bill of Rights anytime recently? No? Well, now might be a good time, because there are obviously some very fundamental matters you either don't know or don't understand, and out here in the real world, it can be embarrassing to spout constitutional nonsense on a comment thread.

Ignorance is forgivable. Continued willful ignorance is not. Get busy reading. The best edition of the Bill of Rights I know of is &lt;i&gt;The Words We Live By&lt;/i&gt;, by Linda Monk; it's aimed at ordinary non-lawyers like me... and, apparently, you. It's available on &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Words-Live-Annotated-Constitution-Stonesong/dp/0786867205" rel="nofollow"&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;. No excuses now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alllowing a terror suspect to lawyer up and clam up immediately upon being captured or arrested&#8221; is, Mr. Scott, as American as apple pie. And in American courts, people have certain rights whether they are American citizens or foreign nationals. </p>
<p>Have you read the Bill of Rights anytime recently? No? Well, now might be a good time, because there are obviously some very fundamental matters you either don&#8217;t know or don&#8217;t understand, and out here in the real world, it can be embarrassing to spout constitutional nonsense on a comment thread.</p>
<p>Ignorance is forgivable. Continued willful ignorance is not. Get busy reading. The best edition of the Bill of Rights I know of is <i>The Words We Live By</i>, by Linda Monk; it&#8217;s aimed at ordinary non-lawyers like me&#8230; and, apparently, you. It&#8217;s available on <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Words-Live-Annotated-Constitution-Stonesong/dp/0786867205" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>. No excuses now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122561</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 22:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well mad I wish I could simply agree
but actually you err in a small degree
Miranda though wrought through the courts it was fought
does not a constitutional right guarantee.
In order for Miranda to be constitutionally based
it must be so worded in the first place
but you will not find no matter how you opine
those words written down constitutionally 

In simpler terms the constitution does not guarentee you the right to be MIRANDIZED. We mirandize because of a later court decision which like you did so well state threatened to eliminate any evidence gained prior to a suspect being "read their rights". However evidence uncovered or recorded prior to an actual interrogation of a suspect can still be used in a court room. Therefore delaying the MIRANDIZING process in order to gain some other VALUABLE information would not necessarily effect your case or cause an automatic acquittal. Therefore if it is deemed an urgent need to garner additional information then interrogating an suspected terror suspect would not be a bad idea especially if he is thought to be working with others who are also set on a mission to commit a random act of terror. So the issue is not so simple and should not be handled with such a nonchalant attitude. 

Yes as an American Citizen he does have rights but as an acting terrorist he also poses a REAL THREAT to innocent lives being lost. This would be a tough call for anyone who was concerned about protecting innocent life. Allowing a terror suspect to lawyer up and clam up immediately upon being captured or arrested may not be the wisest avenue to pursue. IMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well mad I wish I could simply agree<br />
but actually you err in a small degree<br />
Miranda though wrought through the courts it was fought<br />
does not a constitutional right guarantee.<br />
In order for Miranda to be constitutionally based<br />
it must be so worded in the first place<br />
but you will not find no matter how you opine<br />
those words written down constitutionally </p>
<p>In simpler terms the constitution does not guarentee you the right to be MIRANDIZED. We mirandize because of a later court decision which like you did so well state threatened to eliminate any evidence gained prior to a suspect being &#8220;read their rights&#8221;. However evidence uncovered or recorded prior to an actual interrogation of a suspect can still be used in a court room. Therefore delaying the MIRANDIZING process in order to gain some other VALUABLE information would not necessarily effect your case or cause an automatic acquittal. Therefore if it is deemed an urgent need to garner additional information then interrogating an suspected terror suspect would not be a bad idea especially if he is thought to be working with others who are also set on a mission to commit a random act of terror. So the issue is not so simple and should not be handled with such a nonchalant attitude. </p>
<p>Yes as an American Citizen he does have rights but as an acting terrorist he also poses a REAL THREAT to innocent lives being lost. This would be a tough call for anyone who was concerned about protecting innocent life. Allowing a terror suspect to lawyer up and clam up immediately upon being captured or arrested may not be the wisest avenue to pursue. IMO</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bates</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122546</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 04:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really grow tired of McCain.
No doubt in which part he's a pain!
Regarding due process,
He's one of the hosses...
The end that does not hold the brain!

(Good one, Mad. It seems civil liberties are falling by the wayside lately, and few of us... you, me and one or two others... are still stridently objecting as they are denied. This week, despite my joblessness, I rejoined the ACLU... gotta do somethin'.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really grow tired of McCain.<br />
No doubt in which part he&#8217;s a pain!<br />
Regarding due process,<br />
He&#8217;s one of the hosses&#8230;<br />
The end that does not hold the brain!</p>
<p>(Good one, Mad. It seems civil liberties are falling by the wayside lately, and few of us&#8230; you, me and one or two others&#8230; are still stridently objecting as they are denied. This week, despite my joblessness, I rejoined the ACLU&#8230; gotta do somethin&#8217;.)</p>
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		<title>By: jesse levy</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122536</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 22:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey McCain, all citizens have rights!
They're not just for cranky old whites.
So if you wouldn't mind
Please kiss my behind.
I'll help you by dropping my tights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey McCain, all citizens have rights!<br />
They&#8217;re not just for cranky old whites.<br />
So if you wouldn&#8217;t mind<br />
Please kiss my behind.<br />
I&#8217;ll help you by dropping my tights.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122533</link>
		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 02:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's only an old piece of paper
It won't protect you or your caper
Only the wealthy
Retain rights so healthy
The rest of you, meet your new raper.

The pogrom is certainly on
We decide who will belong
Citizenship died
When threatened White Pride
All poor WASPs will also be gone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only an old piece of paper<br />
It won&#8217;t protect you or your caper<br />
Only the wealthy<br />
Retain rights so healthy<br />
The rest of you, meet your new raper.</p>
<p>The pogrom is certainly on<br />
We decide who will belong<br />
Citizenship died<br />
When threatened White Pride<br />
All poor WASPs will also be gone</p>
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		<title>By: jesse levy</title>
		<link>http://www.madkane.com/madness/2010/05/05/mccain-miranda-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-122532</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 01:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain: the name just means "wrong"
For we've all heard this very same song
He dumb and he's nuts
An angry old putz
Wait, on this he will also ping pong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain: the name just means &#8220;wrong&#8221;<br />
For we&#8217;ve all heard this very same song<br />
He dumb and he&#8217;s nuts<br />
An angry old putz<br />
Wait, on this he will also ping pong</p>
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